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Очередной эпизод сериала в разумный срок по идее должен бы выходить в свет, а не когда-нибудь. Ложка к обеду дорога.
Но это уже к Falcom вопрос, конечно.

 

Ну он и выходит в срок. Срок в несколько лет, но оно и понятно—игры не маленькие, за полгода всего не перевести, не отредактировать, не оттестировать. NISA наверное больше Xseed, но есть подозрение что над этими локализациями не 100 человек работают (управленцы, продюсеры и прочие не-рабочие должности не в счёт)

 

Да просто плевать им и все. Когда не так, то день в день игра выходит везде. Какие там сроки, короче.

Вон, в Гандамах SD текста в принципе не сильно меньше, нишевости куда как больше, а инглиш релиз сразу с японкой. Потому как Bandai N умеет работать и правильно приоритеты ставить(никаких озвучек и западных релизов, только текст и asia only). А NISA и Marvelous - нет.

 

Странно, что из России одну из последних игр в серии купить можно, хотя территория не азиатская (формально):

А вот Super Robot Wars действительно только в Азии приобрести можно:
https://steamdb.info/app/1031500/
https://steamdb.info/app/1031510/

 

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Вот этот момент сомнителен, хотя совсем уж свежие SD пока не видел к сожалению.
Корректнее наверное с MegaTen'ами сравнивать, да и то пример не ахти, там тоже японские и англоверсии выходят с окном. Даже P5 вышла с окном.

И что забавно даже Dragon Quest XI с окном, хотя за ним стоит Squarenix, вот уж у кого ресурсы и финансы 100% позволили бы выпустить всё в один день.

Почему же они тогда англоверсии "Tales of" не выпускают день в день с японскими версиями?

 

Не выпускали. Но Tales of Arise вроде везде будет сразу, как я понимаю. Раньше у них тоже были косяки, конечно. Экзилию ругал последними словами в свое время.

У SE свои заморочки. С FF7 Re то все в порядке, хотя казалось бы. Да и Автомата та же. Текста там прилично в принципе. Не DQ, но и не SMT3-4-А, лол.
Про SMT вообще только матом осталось говорить. Что удерживает Атлус от немедленного релиза SMT3 ремастера на западе? Никто не знает, поскольку перевод там был еще в оригинале.

p.s Я в принципе никогда не ругаю тех издателей, у которых иногда что то идет не так, как хотелось бы. Но когда это уже хроническое состояние, то уже никаких хороших слов для них нет. Нет лести для них.

 

У Ниппон Ичи вот это вот вышло.

""Belles' Hells" are spiritual realms created by the powerful emotions, or "Delusions", of various girls. However, the Delusions manifest as physical beings, or Klesha, who try to stop the protagonist and steal their body. One such Klesha is Poisonette, who steals the protagonist's body at the start of the game, but makes them work with her to purify the other Klesha and save the girls they belong to."

 

Я почему-то вот это вспомнил.

Наверное из-за оста от Коширы

Картинка для Герхалта!

 

Time and Eternity плохонькая уже была. У них там были люди одно время, и из Кавии, и Атлуса, и еще из разных. Даже Фудзисака отметился.
Но работали ли они над TaE - хз. Не похоже, как по мне.

А так, сейчас World Ends with You 2 будет из крутого. Давненько ожидается.

 

"Там" это... в imageepoch? Вижу, кроме sands и tae еще причастны были к 7th dragon 2020, black rock shooter и всякие last ranker и sol trigger (вот эту на псп вроде любили)

 

Да, они много на psp в принципе годных игр сделали.

 

Хорошо тут рассказано

Одна из самых нелинейных JRPG: Обзор SaGa Frontier Remastered

 

Эх, когда-нибудь я вплотную займусь серия SaGa!..

 

Странный поток сознания про Final Fantasy VIII (2000, Windows) от товарища, с которым в файтинги играем. Он русский, но текст англоязычный, так что izvinite. Но это такой дикий манифест, что решил поделиться в качестве пасты оголтелости...

Final Fantasy VIII

1.

This one's going to be very spicy, so prepare Uranuses before venturing forth:

Final Fantasy VIII was, is, and will eternally stay vastly superior experience than the utterly underwhelming and mindbogglingly predictable (so-called self-proclaimed "last boss" doesn't count, as it's a literal case of "we just gave up" all the way through and through) bore-fest that was, is, and always will be FF IX.

FF VIII is the official member of the "Holy Trinity" (consisting of "VI-VII-VIII" trio) for all the rightfully deserved reasons, while IX was the exact point where the "golden age of Squaresoft" has finally ended, as it was IX and none other which started the period of "dark ages" for this company. Many misunderstand Sakaguchi by implying he said/proclaimed that IX was "his favorite FF". In reality Hironobu disliked IX quite a lot (both as a dev and as a player). IX was what led him "trying to do a Sci-Fi movie" to begin with (not X, which is a very common misconception). We all know where that ended. IX, obviously, never was *the* worst mainline (or in general as a whole outright) entry in the franchise out of everything that was released to date (by Square, Squaresoft, "Square - Enix", and/or the nu-"modern day" SquE alike), but after the ABSOLUTELY INDISPUTABLE GREATNESS, METICULOUSLY FLAWLESS PERFECTION that is Final Fantasy VIII, after Squaresoft literally reached the very pinnacle of the mount Olympus in it's "PSOne" timeline as a dev with this game, I guess you could really only start falling down from there, because there was nowhere else left to go higher. And IX was that exact piece of media which began the said fall. IX was a huge misstep. Despite not being the absolute worst of what Squaresoft had to offer at the time, it still didn't manage to get anywhere even remotely close to where VI, VII, and VIII stood (and still keep on standing even these days).

2.

"Every time"? He initially said that only during a VERY badly done interview that resulted in n absolute disaster. And Hironobu really didn't like his time working as a producer during IX's development, so his remaks regarding IX were always sarcastic or cynical. And, again, despite all of it's glaring flaws and outright failures, IX still keeps on not being one of the worst. It's just NOT better than the absolutely flawless perfection that was, is, and always will be VIII. FF VIII was the absolute peak of what Squaresoft was able to achieve with PSOne, it's classical Squaresoft's magnum opus.

3.

The (possibly) best IX could've ever achieved, is being "on par with" VIII, but it failed at that task. The problem with IX is that it was way too over-advertised and overhyped, and it's waaay too overpraised for what it ACTUALLY is, what it ACTUALLY offers sheer content-wise. It was blown out of proportion by shilling/bribed journowhore media just as much (if not even more) than the Fart of US II was nowadays. And general unbeknownst/inexperienced audience tends to jump on such misleading bandwagons easily, which was the case back then. All while on the other side of the spectrum we've seen FF VIII being trash-talked and slighted to no end by mostly the same people, for no logically sound or reasonably good enough reasons whatsoever at all. Such absolutely and utterly HYPOCRITICAL and two-faced behavior of the "gaming society" at the time is what made me personally bounce off IX hard initially during first weeks/months of it's initial release.

4.

I've returned back to it several times in the following years, I've completely 100%'d it (including getting all the Badges, doing Excalibur II run, and beating Ozma both the "hard" and "easy" way), and each and every time I was reassured time and time again that it's definitely nowhere even remotely close to be so meticulously perfect as VI, VII, and VIII. Yet, IX was loudly (and even outright obnoxiously so) lauded as a "second coming of Christ"-equivalent by majority of J-RPG "fans" all around me. I could never agree with that. I just physically couldn't. Through all of my years being a gamer, I've played and experienced much better, on many different platforms. IX will never be "great" any in my eyes, because I've had TRUE "greatness" and touched it with my own hands. IX is not that in any way, shape, or form. NOT worst ever, but definitely NOT "great". If I'd ever were to give it a score in my personal rating system...I guess it'd be a 6/10 at most.

5.

I stand on my point that, after the absolutely flawless perfection such as FF VIII (or Star Ocean II, which I was playing at the time alongside FF VIII), IX was a big disappointment and very underwhelming experience for me all-around, right from the start and to the very "end" of it. Even after I've 100%'d it, it didn't bring me any feeling of joy or fulfillment. It was just...meh. A blank. A dud. VIII, on the other hand, starts giving me pleasure immediately, right from the very first second of it's opening cut-scene. And it never lets me down. When I was playing through IX I've never felt anything at all. None of it's characters/locations/designs/story/music/playing mechanics ever clicked with me. None whatsoever. And I really like some of the medieval-themed FF entries (especially V and most of Ivalice). IX did nothing for me. I never got any satisfaction from it. VIII gets me rock-solid hard and IX makes me completely flaccid, "excuse me my French", as they say.

6.

P.S.
I've typed ALL of that from a phone (since I can't use my main PC at the current time).
Let just that mere fact alone speak for itself.

7.

Also, when I address FF VIII as "flawless" or "a perfection", I refer only (and STRICTLY ONLY) to it's uncensored/unaltered/uncut very first Japanese release of 1999, not any other later versions. That one IS an absolute perfection, because literally every other "westerner bastardization" was ruining it. Even back in PSOne days every version post-1999 already heavily rewritten/altered/cut/censored it, and then things turned shittier once they lost source code alongside with Faye Wong's inane managers who refused to license "Eyes On Me" again for 2000's PC port. Basically, JP IS a LITERAL PERFECTION, while US release is a "Working Designs' Lunar"-tier mess and EU release is EVEN WORSE (as it's SLOWER due to 50 Hz lock AND black borders), and PC ports are worse than PSOne since they never had source code and thus they're ridden with bugs/glitches which PSOne lacks. To sum up: 1999's FF VIII - 10/10. US - 7/10. PAL - 4/10. 2000's PC - 5/10. 2013's Steam - 4/10. Nu-demaster - 2/10.

8.

Out of all main line FF entries, VIII is most closest to it's base origins (which is D&D/AD&D, because FF franchise initially started as a "Japanese take on D&D system" to begin with), so it's very open in it's approach to how the game can be handled, while most of the previously released mainline entries were extremely linear sheer freedom of playing style-wise. This, naturally, alienated a lot of the "general base" players who barely just only got used to VII or FFT at the time, so they sincerely expected "treasure boxes/chests" and "armor/accessories" once again, refusing to learn new fresh things and to adapt/adjust to the completely different experience.

9.

I, for one, already being a truly and very strongly seasoned gamer by the time original very first Japanese release of FF VIII came out, fully embraced everything it offered to me, and it was a truly amazing experience by each and every front/field/accord imaginable, EXACTLY because it didn't repeat exactly same (quite frankly - utterly STALE by the late 90s/early 2000s) absolutely predictable formula which other FF titles been abusing for years by then. FF VIII wasn't just "surreal", it was an EVOLUTION and a REVOLUTION, both at the same time. It's only natural that it met extremely inane opposition because of that. People very rarely accept any drastic changes to their beloved/liked things in life. I, purely on a personal aspect, always thought of such people as nothing more than just outright cowards. Luddites. People hindering/rejecting/opposing progress and innovation, even if it's actually very good.

10.

Please don't take this personal opinion of mine as a direct jab towards any of you, people. When I say "cowards" or "Luddites", I largely/mostly mean the bribed/shilling FF IX-jerking journowhores at the time (like those imbeciles from IGN which gave to both the first Shenmue and to the GODHAND a "3 out of 10" back in the days. Yes. THAT actually happened), as well as those particular "gamers" who were trash-talking and slighting/making up defamatory BS about FF VIII just in spite, because they didn't understand jack F all about how the game actually operated, so they got their lousy sorry asses handed to them by T-Rexaur, or in other similar cases, after which they've dropped trying to play the game and then ran away to forums/boards to cry and whine loudly about this game being "bad".

11.

I've seen/read/experienced all of this crap on my own, from a firsthand perspective, so I definitely know and fully remember well WHERE exactly legs of this entire "FF VIII bad, FF IX good" debacle grew from, where and when it all started. Absolute majority of people who "still hate/dislike FF VIII even in this modern day and age" are those who were drastically misled/arrogantly lied to by the totally inept crybaby "haters" who got their asses handed to them by the game in early 2000s because they refused to learn/adapt/adjust to it. Nothing less or more than just that. Basically, nowadays the "hate/dislike for FF VIII" is really nothing more than just an artificially implanted reaction, based out of fake/false information that was consumed years ago, a "meme" SoLS-style if you will.

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Да, это покруче Цирюлика будет

 

Ну нет же. Луддиты уничтожали "машины" и "станки" по очень простой причине. Маш/стан лишали их заработка. Т.е при чем тут трусость и неприятие прогресса?
Оно, с нынешней то колокольни, кажется все просто - надо было переучиваться на фальшивомонетчиков, новые умения и навыки приобретать. Инвестировать в себя. Но тогда такие противоестественные воззрения были не в ходу.

Что касается финалок, то пустое это все. SMT or death.

 

@Ravosu, оххх, земля тебе пухом. SaGa очень сложная, ну для меня таковой оказалась. Но мне понравилось, может быть однажды вернусь в неё. Есть ремейк Romancing SaGa на ps2, советую с него начать.

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@Кишмиш, в чём соль? Я просто не до конца понимаю текст.

 

Издеваются, стоило только заказать jp релиз. На западе в 2022 - switch и ps4.

 

30 сентября на всех PS4 страны восходящего солнца выходит Kuro no Kiseki:
The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki launches September 30 in Japan for PS4 - Gematsu

 

@Solid_Santa, а расскажи про различия оригинала и этого ребута, если не трудно.

 

@Кишмиш, как лимитка приплывет так сразу.